Tales from the Jungle, Volume 8: “That Guy.”

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This one’s a contribution article from a fellow gamer by the name of Khorne53. He’s a long time bud of mine and actually got me introduced into Warhammer Fantasy. He fills us in on what it means to be “That Guy”… C’mon, we all know him… maybe even you’ve been him… but does that necessarily mean being “that guy” is a bad thing? Khorne53 tells all… “Tales from the Jungle – Volume 8: That Guy.” 

Ok, so we’ve all been to a tournament without our buds.  On the way home we’ve all been part of conversations about “that guy”.  So… who exactly is “that guy”?  Well, it’s not easily defined, so I share some qualities of “that guy”.  One important note about “that guy”.  Being “that guy” isn’t necessarily a bad thing.  Being “that guy” can actually be a really good thing.  So, here we go…

You might be “that guy” if…

…You have an excellently painted army.  It’s clear that you’ve spent much time developing your skill.  You should take pride in your work because I guarantee that we notice your work and we talk about it on the ride home!  Some advice to you.  Take time to answer any questions n00bs like me may have about your technique.  I may not be able to paint like you, but that doesn’t mean I’m not willing to learn.  Be cool about it.

…You have sweet conversions in your army.  Hey, I don’t know how to sculpt.  I don’t know how to build a tank outta plasticard.  I do know how to recognize expert craftsmanship, and I thank you for it!  Once again, on a tournament debrief you can count on sometime being spent discussing “how did he do that?”.  A suggestion to you though, continue to push yourself.  Don’t show up to the tournament next year with similar conversions.  Putting your skillz on cruise control is beneath you.  Keep pushing the limit of your skillz is why we talk about you in the first place.

…You have an excellent theme.  Hey, I’m like you… I loved Dukes of Hazard when I was growing up, but I would have NEVER thought about making an army themed about it!  Way to go brother!  Keep being creative.  Your themes always bring up cheerful memories.  Thanks for that!  The advice to you, a “Private Ryan” theme or “300″ theme, while cool… isn’t too original.  A for effort though.

…You were extremely friendly.  Thanks for reminding us that it’s only a game.  Conversations about you usually involve something that totally didn’t go your way, but you took it in stride, just like a champ!  The only advice to you, know where the line is.  This is a tough request because the line is different for each individual.  Just remember, you’re super cool, but you’re not everyone’s best friend.

…You’re extremely loud.  This can be either good or bad.  To me, it’s a good thing.  You make the game fun and enjoyable.  It’s a great time to game with someone that let’s himself go.  The only advice to you is to be aware of who you’re playing.  You’re loudness may come off as obnoxious or annoying.

Of course, being “that guy” can go the other way too.  You might be “that guy” if…

…You look up rules constantly.  It’s one of two things, bubba.  You don’t know the rules, or you’re trying to squeeze a  little advantage to your side.  If it’s the first, learn your rules before the tournament.  If it’s the last, it’s a game.  Don’t take it too serious.  Note, there isn’t anything wrong with looking up rules.  The problem arises when you do it non-stop and it becomes clear that you don’t know how to play, or you have an agenda.  Either way, stop wasting our time.

…You don’t know the rules.  If you don’t know the rules you’re doing several things.  You’re slowing down the game.  We kinda touched on this above.  You’re not providing a challenge.  We show up to a tournament because we wanna play skilled opponents.  We don’t wanna provide a demo game.  That doesn’t make us bad people, just people that have paid money to play against opponents that are equally as good, or even slightly better.  Advice is to take time to learn the basic rules and basic strategies at your local gaming store or club.  I’m sure you’ll find folks willing to teach.

…You don’t have proper dice etiquette.  Couple rules for the folks.  First, don’t touch your opponents dice unless they ask you to.  My rule of thumb is, if you’re willing to touch the guys junk, go ahead and touch his dice.  It’s a little extreme, but you don’t know your opponent.  Err on the side of caution.  Side note: if you’re willing to touch the guys junk… maybe Warhammer isn’t a good hobby for you.  Second, don’t roll too fast.  Give your opponent the opportunity to see what you rolled.  It’s not a secret, so share.  Finally, pick up your misses.  Picking up misses takes out all the gray area.  If a dice is incorrectly picked up, it’s your mistake, and you’re the only one that suffers for it.  Side, side note: if you take your time and make a mistake, your opponent may point it out to you (ref the second point).  Anywho, plenty of tips there for the folks.

…You take the game too serious.  Hey, I like to win just like the next guy.  At the same time I don’t go out of my way to make sure I win.  Roll with the punches man.  Also, you’re not Sun Tzu, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, or Norman Schwarzkopf.  Don’t act like real men’s lives are at stake.  We’re talking about little army men… nothing more, nothing less.  Put down your copy of “The Art of War”, pick up the dice, and get back to gaming.

…You come back later in the tournament to explain how you could have won the game.  Hey we all make dumb decisions during a game.  The fact is that you don’t know how the game would have turned out if you wouldn’t have made that error.  Also, we all get the rules wrong from time to time.  Another fact is that these little mistakes most likely didn’t cost you the game.  So, here’s what you should do.  Suck it up.  You lost.  Focus on the good side.  If you’re able to honestly tell yourself that the game came down to a single crucial point, then most likely it was an EXCELLENT game.  Be thankful that you got to partake in one.

So, that’s it.  Hope you all enjoyed the read.  One final note about “that guy”…  If you’re on your way home from a tournament, and you didn’t run into “that guy”, odds are you are “that guy”.  Let’s hope that you were the good “that guy” and not the bad one.

Thanks for reading.  PEACE!

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6 thoughts on “Tales from the Jungle, Volume 8: “That Guy.”

  1. Well, I know some “guys” that I am not, but I might be close to being some of the other “guys”.

    Maybe the biggest one that I am in danger of is not knowing the rules. I feel that I have a pretty firm grasp on the core rules and the basics for army books, but when it comes down to the details about army books that I don’t play, I might not be familiar with all of the rules, and not provide the best challenge.

    • As long as you know the basics you are in the clear. It’s ok to ask for rules clarifications on army specific rules (I do the same thing… all the time) but if you have to check to see what Fear does… or what you need to roll to hit on a WS4 vs. WS4… yea, nobody wants to deal with that and I think you’d agree. This is referring to not knowing the basic rules of Warhammer, anything other than that is open… because like I said, I still don’t know a lot of special rules or army specific rules and I’ll never hesitate to ask about those…

    • @FotP:
      Yikes! In reading your response I discovered another “that guy”… the “snooty tournament gamer”.

      The intent of the article was 1) make people laugh, and a distant 2) give tips on the tournament scene. The intent was NEVER to dicourage people from playing in tournaments or come off as elite.

      As iggy stated, basic rules should be a given, but there isn’t anything wrong with looking up rules throughout the games. Main point is that people don’t wanna drive X amount of hours in a car, then have to give a demo to someone they’ll most likely never see again.

      As far as providing a challenge goes, it wasn’t meant to insult people new to the game. There are two sides of a game when a newer player is getting beat in a tournament. On the new persons side, they may not have a good time and may even wonder why they’re playing the game. On the other side of the table, the guy has to worry about hurting the other guys feelings. At the same time, it is a tournament… so the ‘experienced’ player shouldn’t have to feel uncomfortable about winning.

      Once again, I understand that it’s hard to judge the intent of an article. I also understand that it’s easy to read inbetween the lines of an article. Keep in mind a few things. This article was written MONTHS ago and was meant to be funny… not insulting. Also, some of the tournaments that Iggy and I go to cost us $75 just to walk in the door… not to mention travel expense and such. A basic understanding of the game should be a given in tournaments such as these. Local tournaments are a different thing, so there is more wiggle room in those.

      Thanks for the eye opening response!

      • No worries. I didn’t take the article as insulting. I just know that being pretty much a beginner, I know that I still have a lot to learn. I’ll still make it out (when I can) to receive further “tutoring”, especially since, for me, just getting to play the games is enjoyment enough for me. 🙂

  2. “My rule of thumb is, if you’re willing to touch the guys junk, go ahead and touch his dice.” That is most hilarious thing I’ve ever read on a blog.

    • I thought it was pretty funny too, but it illustrates a difference in gaming culture. In my group, we all use the same dice and no-one thinks anything of it. We’re good friends, but not quite at the groping stage…

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